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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: TheDestroying on December 20, 2011, 03:18 am
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I have been a member for Silk Road now for almost 4/5 months and have yet to had a bad experience... until now. I have been hitting up the yay vendors and have had amazing transactions with GJ and TV along with some other randoms. The point to my post is to warn fellow SR members of my most recent transaction with CFMF.
Disclaimer: I do not wish ill upon CFMF, nor do I want to bring down his SR Vendor Empire that he has worked on building. I simply want to warn others, and in turn hopefully ignite a fire under his ass in giving me a refund.
So here is how our transaction played out....:
I ordered 2 g's of some girl a little over a month ago. After being asked to release the funds multiple times, I "finalized" in good faith, as I have heard many great reviews.
CFMF: I apologize for coming back to you and asking a second time, but I would like to request that you release funds early although your order is in route I have been recently told that my supplier is getting the best product he has seen in years and would like to be prepared for when these goods are available
It takes some time to convert btc into cash so I was requesting it from other customers, I realize it sounds unsafe to you but I assure you I would do nothing that would in turn ruin my reputation here on SR, I strive for repeat business and not only that the most fair and reasonable for your dollar. If you feel uncomfortable doing so I can understand but would repay you in the future with more than what is paid for on this upcoming new product
Hope you can think about and help me out in this situation I will not forget about it if you do,
best regards
CFMF
ME: well today is a week since you shipped it. still no package. did you have a tracking number? im on the east coast, i didn't think any shipping within the U.S. took this long. whats the word??
CFMF: if nothing arrives on monday let me know, there is no tracking item was sent via first class mail ive had packages take 2 weeks before east coast but this was rare, if nothing arrives i will reship your order
ME: okay it's monday and im pretty sure the package aint coming. it has been 9 business days, and still nothing. i think it is safe to safe it will not be arriving at all. at this point, do you think you could just credit me my money back?
thank you for understanding. i dont know how it got lost this time of year? you would think everything slides on through.
CFMF: sure what was the amount you ordered and ill refund you immediately
<b>At this point I was a little sketched out, why the hell doesn't he have my order info</b>
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ME: 2 g's = 200 USD
thank you
CFMF: i have credited your user name 200 usd in bitcoins, at least it says so on my account tab
<b>This I also thought was worded a little peculiar </b>
ME: it has not cleared yet? and 6 hours has past. i still have my feedback to submit in my orders tab, if you clear everything. i promise you will get a 5/5 from me for being understanding
thanks
<b> At this point I messaged SR support asking if he initiated a transfer, or if it was just bs</b>
SR: He never sent any payment to you. At least according the the records.
~SR Support
ME: I contacted SR support, and i was told there was no record of any transfer sent whatsoever. please refund my money.
CFMF: apologies i will resend if you could at least change the feedback to something reasonable I had no intentions of stealing from you and on my account page it says that i sent you 200 USD worth btc.
Okay, present day, still no word from him. He is totally pulling my leg. I know coming on this site and dealing with shady activities I have to take major caution and expect bad along with the good. But god damn. He had great reviews, and then he just fell off the face of the earth.
whatever at this point :/
Be careful fellow SR'ers
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Who is CFMF?
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Who is CFMF?
CantFeelMyFace
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Hmmmm.....never heard of him. Has he been up to no good? ::)
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one of the top coke dealers here with great reviews which I believe many were composed by him. I think he used to pick n choose his victims carefully. i was one of the chosen few. my 2nd buy here on sr, and lately hes been pickin too much. i expect hell take as much as he can and disappear any minute now if he hasn't already or get kicked out.
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What's the update, have you got 200 bucks back, have you leave feedback for him? Does he come to the forum?
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one of the top coke dealers here with great reviews which I believe many were composed by him. I think he used to pick n choose his victims carefully. i was one of the chosen few. my 2nd buy here on sr, and lately hes been pickin too much. i expect hell take as much as he can and disappear any minute now if he hasn't already or get kicked out.
Well four of his positive reviews were by me, but it's been a month since i bought from him. He was an upstanding guy/girl, who refunded me money on ball that was a bit below his previous quality, though still good.
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yeah he promised to pay me back, still havent heard from him in a week. left him shit feedback now.
on to the next one i guess. i learned my lesson :/
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I am waiting on an order from the same time and for 2gs. I just want to buy some coke jeeeez
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This seems to be a growing and disturbing trend here....Guess what theres been more than acouple vendors who have had 4-5 pages of 5/5 and then started the finalize early crap and then disappeared with alot of peoples money...This site was started to protect the buyers from this crap not the sellers. Sellers can always use DCN and have proof that the ordered arrived. I dont care who vouches for who because any seller at any point can say fuck it and just take off with everyones money. Apparently SR doesnt care because he gets his cut either way. This site is slowly going down hill and the admins dont seem to care...So the point is, it doesnt matter how many 5/5 a vendor has or who vouches for them, escrow is what separates this site from the others and should be used at all times. The only thing that sucks is that vendors are using some buyer scammers that happened to someone else to enforce finalizing early and when they are they only source of a product theres not much to be done. If your going to finalize early then dont bitch....in fact you should demand a lower price and just go around SR all together because he isnt going to anything to help you out if you do...its right there on the checkout screen...its at your own risk. Obviously the OP isnt bitching but warning other people which should be done
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looks like CFMF's account has been shut down.
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I don't like to get up set or un civil, but FUCK CFMF
I have been burnt so many times by SR, its ok, sometimes shit happens, mybitcoin scams, - $700, the 51% i had left, now worth 1/3, another $500 gone. 2 X MtGox deposits (Through technocash), another $800 gone. Coin drops from $7/BTC to $3/BTC, another $400 gone.
2 X 5g shipments, not made it, still in negotiation with one vendor, other refuses to make a deal.
I have lost alot of cash, and alhough that has pissed me off somehwat, overall i'm still ontop due to local prices and quality.
BUT
CFMF scamming, fuck that shits me, a reputable dealer goes rogue, what a piece of shit,
I ordered a 8 ball on 8/12, shipped it in 12 minutes which i thought was strange, on his rep and being international i finalized early. Been sooooo eagerly awaiting it and to learn its a scam, wtf, customs, ok that sucks but part of the game.
CFMF, shame on you, i hope you feel guilty as fuck for the next few years, you are scum.
I had to make this account to rant, and you know in typing this ive come to a realization, ive been getting greedy, ordering large amounts and i always get burnt. fuck it, why take the extra risk for such a small discount, fuck it all, back to 1 g 1 at a time.
Peace all, hope you have a merry fucking xmas
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Not for Australia he doesn't :(
I have had over 35 transactions within escrow, several via direct BTC payment, only 1 X 1g never arrived and it's most likely due to being thrown out by mistake by a friends gf.
I have noticed alot fo vendors don't ship to AUS in escrow, i until recently just thought the whole AUS customs thing a big pile of smoke, but either larger orders do not et through or alot of AUS customers are scamming sellers. Either way, shame for all involved.
Now, in the past month, 2 X 5g, 1 X 3.5g, gone.
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What im about to say will probably be as unpopular as when i first posted about Cantfeelanything. Several times hes mentioned a link with tretravort and george jung and Ive always suspected they could be the same person or group of people besides my 1st order on sr was with tretravort and it was very weak and in a way similar to what I got from cantfeel. Like it was mixed with the same bad shit. This was enough for me to stay away from all 3. I wonder how much the take is on this kind of long term scam how much he got away with. Or maybe he didnt get away at all. Maybe still among us and he or she or they might be seeing for themselves how far they can take it. Just a thought Im putting it out there. take it or leave it.
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Im still waiting for a order from CFMF only 1g but still... has this vendor just disappeared because he wont even reply to my messages.
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read cocain vendor thread... he turned scammer and his account was banned. got scammed too. write your 1g off.
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Dude, really sorry to hear about your Loss. When dealing w/ "these type of substances" anything can go wrong. I just have to say "Welcome to The Club." If you've done at least 10 transactions and didnt get scammed, then you beat the odds. I've benn Scammed to Tune of about 1k. I then dragged a good friend here to get Meds for his wife, loaned him $100 on "deal of century" by Ficusfucker and he gets fucked on his first time up at bat! Consider the variables: Probation, debt, addiction or personal melt Down. Fiscus was very well respected also.
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SR Discount pharmacy, CFMF... It's profitable to become a scammer!
So stop finalizing early!
Stoppit!
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SR Discount pharmacy, CFMF... It's profitable to become a scammer!
So stop finalizing early!
Stoppit!
Quoted For TRuth
DO not finalize early for any vendor, if they ask yiu to they have broken a Silk Road Marketplace guideline.
:D
nomad bloodbath
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Several times hes mentioned a link with tretravort and george jung and Ive always suspected they could be the same person or group of people besides my 1st order on sr was with tretravort and it was very weak and in a way similar to what I got from cantfeel. Like it was mixed with the same bad shit.
I've no idea about being the same guy/group, that's practically unknowable given the nature of SR. Postmarks say that there's at least geographic diversity. That said, holy fucking shit did product from all three feel/smell/taste like it was all getting cut more and more with the same kind of petroleum/chemical thing... to the point that I thought I'd lost all ability to judge coke anymore. TV and GJ have never cheated me but the quality of what I got slipped. CFMF always delivered for me as well, its just that his was the most substandard, I flushed probably around a g I got from CFMF it was that bad. I'm not sure how 3 geographically distributed vendors all end up with the same kind of weird, disgusting cut that I've never had before even with local stomped crap. Maybe they're just trading "how to cut coke" secrets?
If its all an LE conspiracy to curb coke use, all I can say is: job well done.
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Several times hes mentioned a link with tretravort and george jung and Ive always suspected they could be the same person or group of people besides my 1st order on sr was with tretravort and it was very weak and in a way similar to what I got from cantfeel. Like it was mixed with the same bad shit.
I've no idea about being the same guy/group, that's practically unknowable given the nature of SR. Postmarks say that there's at least geographic diversity. That said, holy fucking shit did product from all three feel/smell/taste like it was all getting cut more and more with the same kind of petroleum/chemical thing... to the point that I thought I'd lost all ability to judge coke anymore. TV and GJ have never cheated me but the quality of what I got slipped. CFMF always delivered for me as well, its just that his was the most substandard, I flushed probably around a g I got from CFMF it was that bad. I'm not sure how 3 geographically distributed vendors all end up with the same kind of weird, disgusting cut that I've never had before even with local stomped crap. Maybe they're just trading "how to cut coke" secrets?
If its all an LE conspiracy to curb coke use, all I can say is: job well done.
Same here TV, GJ and CFMF always delivered ( until lately) but the product was crap.
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What a shame.. I was going to order from CFMF too, and I'm sure finalizing early wouldn't have been an issue given his stellar credit. Now I know..DO NOT GO OUT OF ESCROW even with legit vendors. Who's to say that you aren't another pawn in their scheme.
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SR Discount pharmacy, CFMF... It's profitable to become a scammer!
So stop finalizing early!
Stoppit!
Yes. Unfortunately, it is even profitable for scammers if you do not finalize early. The normal rule is you both get 50% of the BC back.
But the buyer put 100% in escrow. The scammer still gets 50% at least for awhile.
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Yep. Learned my lesson after losing almost $800 to the bastard. Never finalizing early again, for anybody! I had done a lot of finalizing early/out of escrow business in the past. No more. Sorry TV, nothing personal. It's just the right way to do business online...anywhere.
BF
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I'm always saddened that people continue to buy from vendors which have proven pretty clearly in the forums that they're scamming and/or shady. I read weeks and months ago that Can't Feel My Face was one of these people. There was a plethora of comments about various people he'd ripped off.
And I myself, almost went into a dealings with him as he was the only one at the time offering converted product of girl. However, my "gut" told me not to, and because it was way overpriced AND international, I opted out. In this category, I ALWAYS stick to Tetravort. For a reason.
If you're going to come to a place like SR, do your research and READ the forums. They're here for a reason.
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Amen, Read Read and read some more. I even read and got scammed, BUT i kept it in escrow. Only sure thing i got right now is escrow.
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If its all an LE conspiracy to curb coke use, all I can say is: job well done.
I dont think LE is interested in curbing coke use but I guess anything is possible.
I've no idea about being the same guy/group, that's practically unknowable given the nature of SR. Postmarks say that there's at least geographic diversity. That said, holy fucking shit did product from all three feel/smell/taste like it was all getting cut more and more with the same kind of petroleum/chemical thing... to the point that I thought I'd lost all ability to judge coke anymore. TV and GJ have never cheated me but the quality of what I got slipped. CFMF always delivered for me as well, its just that his was the most substandard, I flushed probably around a g I got from CFMF it was that bad. I'm not sure how 3 geographically distributed vendors all end up with the same kind of weird, disgusting cut that I've never had before even with local stomped crap. Maybe they're just trading "how to cut coke" secrets?
As far the sr dealers trading cutting secrets. heres a quote from one of Cantfeelathing messages to me "Well All 3 of the top vendors for cola work together and talk to each other about hard to deal with customers, this is a community......" blah blah but I what was speaking of was research chemical I believe they were cut with.
I never ordered from George and I couldnt tell where Tretravorts or Cantfeels package came from but if you have that info and dont mind sharing it, Im curious to know how far apart they are or appear to be.
Maybe I shouldnt have mentioned this feeling I have without having some kind of proof but the way Cantfeel talked about those 2 vendors and the fact I didnt get anything good from either I guess made me think of that possibility. Most if not all people will probably ignore it anyway. I would hate see a bunch of people getting burned like that again but then it can happen with anyone anytime so... it is what it is.
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I'm always saddened that people continue to buy from vendors which have proven pretty clearly in the forums that they're scamming and/or shady. I read weeks and months ago that Can't Feel My Face was one of these people. There was a plethora of comments about various people he'd ripped off.
And I myself, almost went into a dealings with him as he was the only one at the time offering converted product of girl. However, my "gut" told me not to, and because it was way overpriced AND international, I opted out. In this category, I ALWAYS stick to Tetravort. For a reason.
If you're going to come to a place like SR, do your research and READ the forums. They're here for a reason.
While i agree with you overall and not in trying to defend myself but rather justify the need for some modifications to the SR feedback system, i did read the forums, i read them alot before purchasing, infact they gave me so much confidence that when asked to finalize early i had no hesitation, these comments you mention were either hiding in plain sight or not going to be viewed by those researching for a few hours before each purchase.
The buyer feedback cannot be trusted, everyone feels compelled to give a 5, however alot fo ppl say the product quality is poor but still a 5. This is in our SR culture and needs to change to better reflect the seller and the product.
SR Feature Request:
1. Make the feedback on each item sortable by date and rating, that way we can look at the poor reviews easily and use the time stamp on them to determine if revelent rather then going through pages and pages of items.
2. Vendor Feedback
Should be at least 3-4 categories that can be used to more accurately gauge the various aspects of a vendor and their product
- Communication ?/5
- Shipping and handling ?/5
- Product Quality ?/5
- Competitive/Value for Money ?/5
We could easily determine and save alot of people time and money by using this, i mean i could go spamming forums for some sellers i deal with except i know they are just not good at communnication but always deliver, etc.
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To FuckCFMF:
1) One trick that I use, is to enter the keyword (or in this case, the vendor's name) in the "search" bar at the top most left part of the screen. This will pull topics with him/her in it.
2) Another place to check, is the Rumor Mill Discussion. That particular topic thread is ongoing and contains everything you want to know (or that people have posted) about vendors.
3) THe last option is categories for that vendor. There are always threads like "Cocaine Vendor Review" or "Opiate Discussion" etc. A motivated buyer, motivated NOT to get ripped off, will be willing to look through these.
And in terms of your request, threads ARE sorted by date relevance. The last page will be the most current - accessible by clicking the last numerical link at the bottom. I typically scroll through the entire thread, so as to gather all possible posts. They aren't usually longer than 7 or 8 pages. And this, is worth my time.
I think Buyer's should be encouraged to review the Rumor Mill Discussion and/or do the keyname/word search I mentioned before making purchases in the Buyer's Guide. But again, you can only do so much to help each other out. Lead a horse to water, etc, etc, etc.
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Sucks to be scammed.....but I don't think making the ratings more complicated is going to help that. Best is to do what everyone is saying.....CHECK THE FORUMS and NEVER EVER release early from Escrow. Do that and you MOST likely will not have a problem.
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As far the sr dealers trading cutting secrets. heres a quote from one of Cantfeelathing messages to me "Well All 3 of the top vendors for cola work together and talk to each other about hard to deal with customers, this is a community......" blah blah but I what was speaking of was research chemical I believe they were cut with.
I never ordered from George and I couldnt tell where Tretravorts or Cantfeels package came from but if you have that info and dont mind sharing it, Im curious to know how far apart they are or appear to be.
Maybe I shouldnt have mentioned this feeling I have without having some kind of proof but the way Cantfeel talked about those 2 vendors and the fact I didnt get anything good from either I guess made me think of that possibility. Most if not all people will probably ignore it anyway. I would hate see a bunch of people getting burned like that again but then it can happen with anyone anytime so... it is what it is.
TV and CFMF are about 100mi radius from each other. Another reason it is possible they could be one in the same. Why not open multiple accounts and "pat each other on the back" to gain credibility.
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I think its worth clarifying that my transactions with TV, GJ and even CFMF have all been flawless in execution, though all of this is before this CFMF blowout happened. The only thing I'm bitching about that involves TV or GJ what-so-ever is that in a fairly short amount of time, I felt like their product quality (which I completely admit is subjective) went downhill with a growing presence of something weird in it that I can only identify as being like something petroleum based. Something that swamped my last experience with CFMF's stuff so much that I threw it away. I never took it up with him because its so subjective and for my txn, he did his part as expected.
Maybe its a regional thing. Maybe its just a crappy supplier in common. Maybe its all in my imagination. All possible. However, I'm finding other sources that work better for me so that's what I'm going with. Having had some lately not from one of these three, OMG, I DO remember what coke is like and it doesn't have that petroleum thing going on for me.
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FuckCFMF, Not all bad ideas on sugessting those 4 Catagories. Problem is getting SR to move on it. It probably will address at some point. I see SR as More of a Batttleship. If it has to make changes, it goes slowly, but will get there. Given that Buyers are Unionizing since All us Buyers are Inherent Scammers, you should start a Buyers Union.
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That petroleum/chemical smell you get a whiff of is actually PURE ACETONE, and it is used in the final stages of cocaine production when the product is purified. The stronger the smell, the more potent your product is. Of course the acetone can evaporate if left in the open for an extended period of time, but the best cocaine almost always reeks of acetone.
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I would disagree with this statement as some of the worst cocaine I have ever had has reeked of acetone and or petroleum while the absolute best cocaine I ever had (Miami) had almost zero smell, was rock hard and had a bluish tint to it. One small line rocked my world for about 45 minutes with no desire to bump another for an hour.
That gram lasted three people from 3 in the afternoon until 11 at night. Best I ever had.
Certainly there is some coke out there that is good that reeks but my experience (6+ years) has led me to believe that that smell is not an indicator of high quality.
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SR Discount pharmacy, CFMF... It's profitable to become a scammer!
So stop finalizing early!
Stoppit!
Yes. Unfortunately, it is even profitable for scammers if you do not finalize early. The normal rule is you both get 50% of the BC back.
But the buyer put 100% in escrow. The scammer still gets 50% at least for awhile.
Doesnt it make since that if Silk Road gets a reasonable about of PMs concerning one vendor or a group of vendors that something will be done that would force the buyers to be correct and the vendor account would get banned?
Stop early finalization's at all cost and buy according to the SR guidelines they were established for a reason.
All early finalization are going to void any recourse from SR.
If you want to play out side the game you are going to have to pay the consequences.
I've been here for 8 months and received 99.9999% of all my orders.
nomad bloodbath
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I would disagree with this statement as some of the worst cocaine I have ever had has reeked of acetone and or petroleum while the absolute best cocaine I ever had (Miami) had almost zero smell, was rock hard and had a bluish tint to it. One small line rocked my world for about 45 minutes with no desire to bump another for an hour.
That gram lasted three people from 3 in the afternoon until 11 at night. Best I ever had.
Certainly there is some coke out there that is good that reeks but my experience (6+ years) has led me to believe that that smell is not an indicator of high quality.
I have to agree with towelie. Much of the "cola" I have purchased from the top vendors here has had something like lidocaine added. The numbing effect
lasted too long and the high was more like amphets. I think the residual smell comes from these guys acting as pseudo chemists and extracting lidocaine from sun cream.You can get it from the store with 4% by wt. concentrations. Then you buy some amphets from here or there and cut it. Voila.
You now have your own fauxcaine.
And it is fire and fauxcaine good! Except for the residual acetone smell :)
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SR Discount pharmacy, CFMF... It's profitable to become a scammer!
So stop finalizing early!
Stoppit!
Yes. Unfortunately, it is even profitable for scammers if you do not finalize early. The normal rule is you both get 50% of the BC back.
But the buyer put 100% in escrow. The scammer still gets 50% at least for awhile.
Doesnt it make since that if Silk Road gets a reasonable about of PMs concerning one vendor or a group of vendors that something will be done that would force the buyers to be correct and the vendor account would get banned?
Stop early finalization's at all cost and buy according to the SR guidelines they were established for a reason.
All early finalization are going to void any recourse from SR.
If you want to play out side the game you are going to have to pay the consequences.
I've been here for 8 months and received 99.9999% of all my orders.
nomad bloodbath
I think you have hit the nail on the head! Yes, everyone PM SR. Or better yet just take the rating system and make it visible to SR only. THEN LET SR POST A SINGLE RATING FOR THAT VENDOR on the vendors store. That way the buyers ( who give out their addresses) will not feel like a target for giving a low but accurate rating. SR can also make sure that 5/5's are not coming from 1BC sales. This can be automated I'm sure.
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2. Vendor Feedback
Should be at least 3-4 categories that can be used to more accurately gauge the various aspects of a vendor and their product
- Communication ?/5
- Shipping and handling ?/5
- Product Quality ?/5
- Competitive/Value for Money ?/5
I like that idea but I would change it to
Communication ?/5
Shipping Time ?/5
Product Stealth ?/5
Product Quality ?/5
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I truly Believe that SR can Self Regulate. To most, SR's activity should Not even exist. A type of Service that thus far has kinks, but People Are Trading on The Silk Road. Ebay, Amazon, etc self-regulate their particular market. Seriously, when you (whomever you are) first heard there was a Site that could allow you to Buy High End Drugs from all corners of the Galaxy? The thing is all those Sites ALSO have Scammers. Dishonest, pissed-off people with No innner pride or Respect for Self or Others. It will always be a nature of these beasts called Humans.
How do you deal with Scammers, you use Teeth.
A week where account is frozen to show that SR is not fucking around. Yeah, you can get another account, but if you are a Douche, the next account will fail too. No Fines, no bullshitting. Bam! Account frozen.
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TV and CFMF are about 100mi radius from each other. Another reason it is possible they could be one in the same. Why not open multiple accounts and "pat each other on the back" to gain credibility.
Actually, they're not. They're no where near each other. That's all I'm going to say about that. One is international one is not.
And I've never heard TV pat anyone on the back or put them down. He/she is neutral, objective and once or twice defended himself do to some assball slamming him/her in the forums, which was probably the competition. So, you must be confused.
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First of all I didnt say that. afflatus said it after quoting me. But how could anyone really know that anyway. You could ship all your mail in a box and ship it from wherever. probably not but im just saying. you have post marks from them being across the world from each other and he has them being 100 apart. What is that saying? I did say the gram I got from him wasnt worth $10. even. If I didnt say that and we all stayed neutral whats the use?
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TV and CFMF are about 100mi radius from each other. Another reason it is possible they could be one in the same. Why not open multiple accounts and "pat each other on the back" to gain credibility.
Actually, they're not. They're no where near each other. That's all I'm going to say about that. One is international one is not.
And I've never heard TV pat anyone on the back or put them down. He/she is neutral, objective and once or twice defended himself do to some assball slamming him/her in the forums, which was probably the competition. So, you must be confused.
All I can say is that the post marks are within 100mi radius.
I have heard buyers "slamming" him. They described in detail the same experience I had with his fauxcaine.
His response was to accuse them of being vendors. TV has not stood behind his product with me and others.
I have gone back to look at his posts, but it appears he is a newbie again. Many of his posts have been pruned.
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First of all I didnt say that. afflatus said it after quoting me. But how could anyone really know that anyway. You could ship all your mail in a box and ship it from wherever. probably not but im just saying. you have post marks from them being across the world from each other and he has them being 100 apart. What is that saying? I did say the gram I got from him wasnt worth $10. even. If I didnt say that and we all stayed neutral whats the use?
TV's stuff made me feel ill.
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didnt make me feel good or anything.
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That's interesting..because I'm a rock fan myself, and I used TV's stuff about 12 times over a rather long course. Never EVER varied in quality. The crap I bought from other cola vendors on here, would barely rock up. TV's never failed. And, if you're any connoisseur of cocaine, you know the true test is the rock test. It's been a few months since I purchased from him, but as I mentioned if someone consistently provides the same grade over 4 or 5 months, it's probably not going to change.
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Regardless of any of this, product or Raduis, I think it boarders on "Ratting Out" when you either Vendors or Buyers Even Hint using Address Info. Thst's highly Pussy because in Real World, Vendors/Buyers rarely Rat unless there's Major Shit going to be Written up.
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I cant log on to my account right now but ibgoldfinger.......I dont think anyone posting here had ratting on anyone on their mind at all. I certainly didnt. I wouldnt rat on anyone regardless. we were talking about if they could be the same person. but maybe theres something i dont understand so i wont say no more about it. im through with both of these vendors anyway it doesnt matter to me where they are.
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Regardless of any of this, product or Raduis, I think it boarders on "Ratting Out" when you either Vendors or Buyers Even Hint using Address Info. Thst's highly Pussy because in Real World, Vendors/Buyers rarely Rat unless there's Major Shit going to be Written up.
No one is ratting out anyone. We are talking about the reliability and quality of the product and vendors. There is more info in the store about vendors location. A radius does not tell anything about ones location. I would not give out anyone's address or location. However, it is not a secret. Anyone can find out the specifics themselves. The vendors send it to the buyers themselves. It is up to them to decide who gets the specifics, that is why I used radius.